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Why Kate may never become Queen
« on: December 30, 2012, 11:38:00 PM »
Why Kate may never become Queen: MP proposes Duchess should be given title of 'Princess Consort' when William becomes King

 MP John Hemming wants amendment to repeal of royal primogeniture laws
 Wives of ruling Kings adopt title of Queen Consort under current rules
 But husbands of monarchs have no official title - we don't have 'King Philip'
 Hemming to ask Commons to consider amendment to repeal next month

 


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PUBLISHED:10:38, 30 December 2012| UPDATED:10:54, 30 December 2012
 
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The Duchess of Cambridge is facing the prospect of never becoming Prince William?s Queen.
 
MP John Hemming is attempting to ensure all spouses of reigning monarchs are officially known as Prince or Princess Consorts, with an amendment to the repeal of ancient royal primogeniture laws.

The wives of ruling Kings currently become Queen Consorts but the husbands of female monarchs have no right to any title - which is why the current Duke of Edinburgh is not known as King Philip.
 



'Princess Consort': An MP's proposal in an Early Day Motion says the Duchess of Cambridge (left) would lose out on being called Queen Catherine when her husband William (right) is crowned King
 
The Liberal Democrat?s Early Day Motion says the Duchess of Cambridge would lose out on being called Queen Catherine when her husband William is crowned King, reported the Sunday Express.
 


 
 

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?It?s not right that a Queen Regnant is treated as less important than a King Regnant,? he told the Sunday Express. ?It seems sensible we resolve this issue when dealing with the primogeniture issue.?
 
The proposal also means Camilla would become Princess Consort when Prince Charles becomes King - which Clarence House has always insisted upon, following the couple?s previous divorces.
 



Current rules: The wives of ruling Kings become Queen Consorts but the husbands of female monarchs have no right to any title - which is why the current Duke of Edinburgh (right) is not known as King Philip
 



Early Day Motion: MP John Hemming is attempting to ensure all spouses of reigning monarchs are officially known as Prince or Princess Consorts
 
Prime Minister Winston Churchill was told by the Lord Chancellor in 1954 that Philip had no right to any title despite his wife Elizabeth II becoming Queen - but he was later given the title of Prince.
 
The current difference in title rights dates back to the custom of male primogeniture, which has meant that male heirs have traditionally leapfrogged their older sisters in the line of succession.
 
But a new law to ensure the first child of the Duke and pregnant Duchess of Cambridge will succeed to the throne regardless of gender is being fast-tracked through Parliament.
 
Ending gender discrimination in the line of succession will involve changing some of the oldest laws on the Statute Book, including the Treason Act 1351, which was originally written in Norman French.
 
A Clarence House spokesman told MailOnline of Mr Hemming?s possible amendment to the repeal, which the Commons will be asked to consider next month: ?It?s a matter for the Government.?


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Re: Why Kate may never become Queen
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 11:55:17 PM »

Equality law means Duchess of Cambridge may never be our Queen

THE Duchess of Cambridge may never become William?s Queen if an MP?s attempt to eradicate one of the last vestiges of sexism in the British constitution is ?successful.



By: Ted Jeory
Published: Sun, December 30, 2012









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The Duchess of Cambridge may not get a chance to become Queen
 
Next month the Commons will be asked to consider a proposal that would ensure gender equality in the titles bestowed on the spouses of reigning monarchs.

They would officially be known as Prince or Princess Consorts.

Under existing laws and precedent, the wives of ruling Kings become Queen consorts but the husbands of sovereign Queens do not have the right to any title.

It is the reason why the Duke of Edinburgh is not known as King Philip. The Prince had to wait until 1957, five years after his wife became Queen, before getting his title. In contrast, under current arrangements, the Duchess of Cambridge will automatically become Queen Catherine when William is crowned.

The reason for the different treatment lies in the ancient laws of royal primogeniture, which granted males a greater right to the throne than female siblings.

However, with the primogeniture laws due to be abolished in the new year, Liberal Democrat MP John Hemming feels it would be an appropriate time to fix other anomalies.

He will table an Early Day Motion and a possible amendment to the primogeniture repeal suggesting that the spouses of monarchs be known in law as Prince or Princess Consorts.

He prefers that solution to suggesting they are all known as King or Queen Consorts. Such a move would also finally solve the problem of what to call Camilla when Charles becomes King.

Clarence House has insisted she will be styled Princess Consort, amid fears of an outcry due to Charles and Camilla?s past divorces if she were to be called Queen.

Mr Hemming said: ?It?s not right that a Queen Regnant is treated as less important than a King Regnant.

?It seems sensible we resolve this issue when dealing with the primogeniture issue.?

Experts at Buckingham Palace have confirmed the logic of his proposal but a spokesman would only say: ?This is a matter for Parliament.?

 

They would officially be known as Prince or Princess Consorts

After Elizabeth became Queen in 1952, Prime Minister Winston Churchill had a series of secret letter exchanges with his Lord Chancellors asking advice on what title to bestow upon Philip.

The Lord Chancellor, Lord Simonds, confirmed in 1954 that he had no right to any title. He wrote: ?Under our constitution, the husband of a Queen Regnant has, as such, neither title nor political power.? They considered the last precedent of Albert, Queen Victoria?s husband. She had wanted him to be King Consort but a public outcry, partially over his German nationality, forced her to drop the idea.

Albert was eventually named Prince Consort, a title Philip refused in 1954. Three years later Philip was made Prince of the United Kingdom.

Palace insiders have highlighted another sexist anomaly in royal practice. Titles can be passed down only by men in the Royal Family, which is why Princess Anne?s children are merely Mr Peter and Miss Zara Phillips, whereas the sons and daughters of Andrew and Edward are Viscount, Lady or Princess.
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