New evidence of what happened to MH17

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New evidence of what happened to MH17
« on: July 31, 2014, 10:33:16 PM »
New evidence of what happened to MH17 courtesy of George West.


Here is the German report in German naturally, which came from George West's report


Here is George West's sensational report:

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:11 PM

To: george
Subject: [New post] NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets.

New post on The Slog.
NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets.
by John Ward to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders

This is what a German pilot-cum-air technology expert Peter Haisenko has just published on the subject of the MH17 disaster (my emphases):

'The misfortune of the Malaysian MH 017 is known to all. The flight
 recorder is in England and is being evaluated. What can come of this?
 May be more than you want to accept....if you look at the image of
 Cockpit-Fragments, this picture is certainly shocking.
Entry And Exit holes from bullets in the area of the Cockpit. This is not speculation, but analysis of clear facts: the cockpit
 shows clear evidence of bullet holes. You can see the entry holes and
 some exit points. The edges of the bullet holes are bent inwards,
 these are much smaller and round in shape. A 30mm calibre. The exit
 holes are less well formed and the edges are torn outwards.
 Furthermore it is visible that the exit holes have torn the double
 aluminium skin and bent them outwards. That is to say, splinters from
 inside the cockpit blew through the outside of the cabin. The open
 rivets have also been bent outwards....There is only one conclusion one can make, and that is that this: the
aircraft was not hit by a missile. The damage to the aircraft is
 exclusively in the cockpit area....

Armour-Piercing Ammunition. Russia has published radar data that a
 Ukranian SU 25 was close to MH 017. this corresponds with Spanish air
 traffic control that two Ukranian fighter aircraft were in direct
 contact with MH 017. Examine the weaponry of the SU 25: it is fitted
 out with a 30mm cannon Type GSch-302 /AO-17A, with 250 rounds of
 splintering exploding bullets on a belt - shrapnel rounds. The cockpit
 of MH 017 was hit from TWO sides, as there are entry and exit holes on
 the same side....'
 Very compelling stuff, is it not?

Now read this (also German) article by defence expert Bernd Biederman, who offers equally sound reasons why the
 shooting down could NOT have been from a surface to air missile:

' the shooting down of the Malaysian
 Boeing on July 17 in the Eastern Ukraine "could not have been hit by a
 surface to air defense missile" .

This is the assessment of retired Colonel Bernd Biedermann in an
 article for the daily newspaper published in Berlin "new Germany"
 (Thursday edition). Had splinters from a surface to air missile hit
 the plane, it would have immediately caught fire, argues the NVA
 anti-aircraft missile specialist. His reasoning is because of the
 "enormous frictional heat that the splinters generate on penetrating
 the fuselage. A single splinter contains the same kinetic energy as a
 40-ton freight car hitting the buffers at 60 kilometers per hour." In
 the case of the Malaysian Boeing, scattered fires had broken out after
 the impact with the ground, because hot debris from the aircraft had
 come in contact with combustible materials.

Biedermann is familiar with Soviet and Russian air defense technology,
 he led units in the duty officer system in East Germany and taught at
 the Military Academy in the field of anti-aircraft missile troops.'

Articles are beginning to appear across the Web to the effect that Angela Merkel is disturbed by (and growing tired of) the incessant US propaganda being emitted in favour of its energy agenda....and so we must perhaps in turn view these articles in the light of her alleged new agenda concerning the creation of an alternative bloc to that of America. (More on this here in the near future).

But spin or not, these analyses make sense. The US State Dept has now shifted its position from 'Russian atrocity' to 'tragic accident'. The above opinions suggest that neither are true: they suggest strongly that the Ukrainian air force took out MH17.

John Ward | July 28, 2014 at 4:11 pm | Tags: 30mm calibre bullet holes in MH17, American foreign policy f###s up again, Bernd Biedermann, Peter Haisenko, Ukrainian air force jets fitted with 30 mm cannon, US State Dept fudging om MH17 blame | Categories: NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets. | URL:

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