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Facts,figures and phantasies - 27
« on: May 25, 2016, 08:41:42 PM »

Many of today's (Wednesday) papers, carry stories about Universities clandestinely putting pressure on students to vote to Remain in the EU.  They are not allowed under their statutes to do this officially and bave been warned by the Charities Commission.  Maybe (see yesterday's FFPh) they fear the loss of the 12,000 EU students who have vanished back to their home countries without paying the £89m they owe us!).  But the Telegraph discloses that Oxford, Warwick and Exeter are all known to have "used private lectures and e-mails to pressurise their students. Why does everything about the Remain campaign turn out to be a 'dirty trick'? -cs   


The most significant thing in this, I think is the attitude to establishment figures! -cs

TELEGRAPH   24.5.16

Brexit favoured by personal investors amid distrust of PM

   Tim Wallace

A majority of personal investors in the UK will vote to leave the EU in next month’s referendum according to a study from brokerage The Share Centre.

It found 56pc of investors favour Brexit rather continued membership of the EU and also discovered a lack of trust in the Prime Minister and his campaign to remain with Brussels.

The survey of 1,800 investors found that 39pc want to stay in the EU while 5pc are undecided.

This is not because they expect to see a rise in share prices if Britain  quits the union - 66pc believe markets will dip if the country votes to leave.  The investors do believe, however, that the country will benefit more broadly from independence from Brussels. 

Just 13pc said they trust David Cameron on the subject of  EU membership, though few leaders are trusted at all.  Most favoured is Michael Gove, the Leave campaigner, who is trusted by 21pc of investors.

“A clear majority of personal investors favour Brexit and are prepared to overlook their concerns concerning the impact this might have on the UK stock market” said the Share Centre’s chief executive, Richard Stone. “The data also shows that the establishment has a credibility issue with personal investors”.


This, from Tim Cross,  appeals to the heart as well as the head and looks to the ‘big picture’.  He speaks for “a group of senior officers” who are clearly sickened by the way we are being governed , A second article by Sir Michael Rose appears in The Times.  -cs. 

TELEGRAPH   25.5.16

Stiffen your sinews and Vote Leave - Brexit will make Britain great again



What has been most striking about the referendum debate is how depressingly short-termist, tactical and negative it has all been. Can no one lift their eyes beyond June 23? Can no one argue a case for what Britain’s role in the world can – and should – look like 10 or more years from now instead of offering frankly bizarre “end of the world” forecasts that few if any of us really believe?

We need a long-term vision to inspire – not frighten. Great visions challenge, they don’t offer the status quo and retrenchment.  Our nation did not stand firm in the 20th century against undemocratic regimes because it was economically or politically the sensible and prudent thing to do. If our current leaders had debated whether to confront Nazism and Communism or bow to what elites then argued was the inevitability of defeat, it is clear to me that many would have compromised, even submitted.

“Whitehall is stuffed full of people who want to reduce us to a bit-part role in a world where only the economy matters and to hell with anything else”

Bloody minded, indeed arrogant, we stood firm under inspirational and visionary leadership that made no apologies for what we stood for and what we were capable of achieving. Today Whitehall is stuffed full of senior politicians, civil servants and advisers who believe that Britain cannot survive unless we bury ourselves inside an amorphous mass of unelected bureaucrats. They have no pride in where we have come from as a nation and no clue as to what we can be in the future. Afraid and insecure, they want to reduce us to a bit-part role in a world where only the economy matters and to hell with anything else.

Many of us are not prepared to accept this defeatism. That is why today I will be appearing alongside a group of senior officers, including Major General Julian Thompson, who commanded land forces in the Falklands in 1982. Between us, we have served in every one of Britain’s wars since Korea. We are patrons of Veterans for Britain, a national movement that is making the case to serving and former members of the Armed Forces that only by regaining democratic control of our future can this country play a strong role as a force for good in the world.

There are of course many positives in working closely alongside Europe, but that must not cloud our judgment or drown our reason. No serious player in this debate is talking about pulling up drawbridges and withdrawing from the world, but rather leaning into and engaging with the world with strong, confident, optimistic leadership.

“The European experiment, like Titanic, is sinking – and we should get off while we still have the freedom to do so”

Our history and trading links give us global interests, global links and friends on every continent. We do not need to subcontract our future to an organisation juggling the views of 28 countries while moving inexorably towards full political union and all that comes with it – unified armed forces, unified systems of justice, unified monetary and economic policies. I cannot accept that there is no option but to accept such a future.

Britain has the fifth-biggest economy and the fifth-largest defence budget in the world. We are a nuclear power and a permanent member of the UN Security Council. For more than 40 years I was proud to serve in what was – and I believe still is – one of the finest armed forces. And as I did so in Belfast, the Balkans and Baghdad I was constantly impressed by the extraordinary abilities of the men and women I served alongside and met – an eclectic mix of people in the diplomatic and humanitarian services and in industry and commerce.

If there is any country that needs Brussels, it is certainly not Britain. Do we really have no choice but to engage with the world locked inside a European institution that is so deeply flawed? The European experiment, like Titanic, is sinking – and we should get off while we still have the freedom to do so.

As the 21st century unfurls we can and should stand among the front rank of world powers, bowing to no one and displaying confidence in ourselves as a country unique among the brotherhood of nations. We should not bind ourselves to a failing European enterprise which, if we submit to fear and vote to stay, will breathe a sigh of relief and tell us that we had our chance and blew it. And then they will ignore us as they press on into an ever-bleaker future.


Former SAS commander Sir Michael Rose: EU membership undermines Britain’s military

Sir Michael Rose, the former SAS commander in Bosnia, has come out in favour of Brexit along with several other prominent military figures. Rose is quoted in The Times saying that, “I believe that the UK’s contribution to European defence can manifestly be better made solely through NATO than by trying to spread our limited resources too thinly in order to include European defence and security policy initiatives into UK’s defence programme.” He is also quoted in The Daily Telegraph saying that, “European law, in my view, has already seriously undermined UK’s combat effectiveness… today, our service men and women are in danger of becoming no more than civilians in uniform.”

This is a constitutional outrage whereby the public are denied the chance to see the leaders of the campaigns under pressure on their policies.  Clearly there are subjects Cameron would rather not discuss, like mass immigration, government subsidised propaganda and distorted figures pretending to be facts,  He’s chickened out, the coward! -cs

TELEGRAPH   25.5.16

It's official: David Cameron will not debate another political leader on television before EU referendum

          Christopher Hope, chief political correspondent

David Cameron will not officially take part in any head to head television debates ahead of next month’s European Union referendum, it has emerged.

The BBC said the Prime Minister has agreed to be questioned by a BBC Question Time audience on Sunday June 19, just a few days before the referendum on June 23.

However, with Mr Cameron refusing to be involved in another BBC debate in front of thousands of voters at Wembley Arena a few days later, it means that it will not debate any anti-EU political leader head to head.

The only other “debate” for Mr Cameron will be an ITV programme next month when he will and Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, will be quizzed separately by a live studio audience

The BBC said it would show a "Question Time EU Referendum Special" with Mr Cameron on BBC One at 6.45pm on Sunday 19 June.

A corresponding programme featuring the anti-EU Justice secretary Michael Gove will be broadcast on BBC One at 6.45pm on Wednesday 15 June.

A Vote Leave source said: “The Prime Minister is so worried that he has refused to take part in debates with any serious opponents.

“Number 10 has bullied the broadcasters into giving him uncontested slots on prime time slots on television.”

Both programmes are being broadcast at unusually early times to avoid clashing with fixtures from the Euro 2016 football finals.

David Dimbleby, the veteran BBC broadcaster, will moderate both debates which will be in front of an audience, screened according to their views on the EU.

The BBC will also unveiled the panel for a youth-orientated debate in Glasgow this Thursday evening, presented by Victoria Derbyshire.

Former SNP leader Alex Salmond and former Labour home secretary Alan Johnson are representing the pro-EU side.

Liam Fox, the former Defence secretary, and Diane James, Ukip’s Justice and Home Affairs spokesman, are on the Leave side.

A Number 10 source said it was "an effective format" for members of the public to question political leaders.


Carney as Governor of the Bank of England is NOT part of the government and issued highly dubious partisan forecasts which were widely criticised.  He thus devalued at a stroke the integrity of the Bank and its world stature.  He sholuld resign forthwith. -cs

OPEN EUROPE  25.5.16

Andrea Leadsom: Carney’s intervention in EU debate “highly damaging” for Bank of England

Writing in City AM, Energy Minister and Leave campaigner Andrea Leadsom MP argues that Bank of England Governor Mark Carney’s intervention in the EU referendum debate “has been highly damaging for the Bank,” and “has actually increased the risk of high market volatility ahead of the referendum.” She writes, “Let’s keep calm. Nothing will change on 24 June after a vote to leave. Everything will remain the same for at least two years while we negotiate.

Meanwhile, Carney yesterday defended the Bank’s stance during a hearing with the House of Commons’ Treasury Select Committee, arguing, “We have a responsibility to discharge our remit and a broader responsibility to the British people who don’t want risks kept from them…We have not supported one side [in the referendum campaign]. We have supported low and stable inflation.” However, The Times reports that Richard Sharp, an external member of the Bank of England’s Financial Policy Committee, has criticised Carney for overplaying the economic risks of Brexit, arguing, “I am not worried about a major financing difficulty…The UK is a thoroughly investable economy and would remain a thoroughly investable economy whichever way the vote goes.”

Separately, Santander Chief Ana Patricia Botín told a conference in Madrid yesterday that her bank would maintain its presence in the UK irrespective of the outcome of the referendum. French Central Bank Governor François Villeroy de Galhau told El País, “One can’t expect to leave Europe and believe that, at the same time, it is possible to take part in a single financial market and that the role of the City [of London] will remain the same. It is not possible. The risks of Brexit are high. And another consequence: questions will arise over the solidity of the Eurozone, which will have to respond to this situation through a strengthening of its economic integration.”

Source: The Financial Times El Español The Times City AM: Leadsom El País


Generally speaking online polls are regarded as more accurate (AND more favourable to Brexit!) but probe deeper and are slower to publish.  Nobody except an inveterate gambler would bet on the outcome based on all the polls we have so far.  They will harden in the weeks tio come. -cs

OPEN EUROPE   25.5.16

Two online polls suggest EU referendum is neck and neck and that trust in Cameron has fallen

The latest online YouGov poll for The Times has Remain and Leave tied on 41%, with 13% undecided and 4% saying they would not vote in the EU referendum. In contrast to some other polling companies’ polls, which have found increasing support for Remain among Conservative voters and older voters, the YouGov poll finds only 35% of 2015 Tory voters  back Remain, as well as 36% of voters aged over 65. The poll also found that only 18% of voters trust Prime Minister David Cameron on the issue of Europe, down two points. Boris Johnson is trusted by 31% of voters followed by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn on 28% and UKIP leader Nigel Farage on 22% with Justice Secretary Michael Gove on 16%. A separate ICM online poll also has Remain and Leave tied on 45% with 10% undecided.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court yesterday upheld the decision of both the High Court and Court of Appeal stating that British expats are not eligible to vote in the EU referendum if they have lived outside the UK for more than 15 years. A group of expats had launched a legal challenge against the EU Referendum Act on the grounds that it was an unjustified restriction on their EU right to freedom of movement and an infringement of their common law right to vote.

Source: The Times Reuters The Independent


This is a can of worms.  Erdogan doesn't like the deal struck by his former prime minister whom he sacked.  So he is not keeping his side of the bargain and threatens to call the whole deal off if Visa-free travel does not come next month despite Turkey not having changed the law on its side.  Meanwhile the EU is up to ITS usual

 tricks c

alling for new powers and for 10% of the EU budget to be diverted although Britain as a non-Schengen country is not directly involved - WATCH THIS SPACE! -cs

OPEN EUROPE   25.5.16

Erdoğan threatens to call off EU-Turkey migrant deal unless visa-free travel granted

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan yesterday warned the EU that the Turkish parliament would block the EU-Turkey migrant deal if Turkish citizens are not granted



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